19:48:37 dave-on-air: the troops usually only start arriving about 2 minutes before showtime
19:48:45 dave-on-air: and, of course, we're never sure they're coming
19:48:49 dave-on-air: adds to the excitement
19:49:57 bradhicks: hey Jeff this is Brad from Westren Australia, just want to say trhanks for the help u gave me with podcasting queries a couple of weeks ago
19:50:36 bradhicks: as u can tell my chat typing skills are not too good :-)
19:50:48 dave-on-air: brad you're doing fine
19:51:21 bradhicks: Just trying to join in while I feed my 18 month daughter and get her prepared for swimming lessons!
19:51:21 surawang: cheer!
19:53:32 bradhicks: This is very cool guys - you will see me in the chat room more often from now on i hope, now just have to get skype set up on my Mac!
19:55:24 surawang: Hello, Will. Congratulations!
19:55:31 Will_Richardson: Thanks!
19:55:39 surawang: The adventure begins -- this is dave warlick
19:55:55 Will_Richardson: Yep...here we go
19:56:10 bradhicks: Hi guys I've listened to the last few casts on wikibooks and I agree that there is stilla problem with the method of delivery
19:56:34 surawang: Problem?
19:56:58 bradhicks: photocopying just becomes too prohibitive and as a teacher I can't tell you how much I've had to battle with photocopiers
19:57:23 bradhicks: not to mention the ongiong costs that u would encounter
19:57:49 bradhicks: and that it may not be a very environmentally friendly approach
19:58:02 Mercedes: Perhaps we could think that each institution or teacher will resort to photocopying all or part of the wikibook depending on the reality of the institution or even country.
19:58:44 Mercedes: For many schools, particularly in developing countries, a wikibook they can print is still a great resource, and still an economical one.
19:58:57 surawang: Printing a wiki seems a little counter to what it's really about! ??
19:59:08 Mercedes: I see it as an option.
19:59:22 bradhicks: I think its a case of the technology catching up and becoming cheaper. i envision a paperback sized palm like device that would be cheap enough for all students to have. Something like the $100 laptop idea
19:59:44 bradhicks: content could just be uploaded as needed
20:00:19 surawang: What's special is what you guys are doing right now!
20:00:26 Mercedes: That is also another side of the story. There are still many school administrators in the world that dont have that kind of vision, but will eventually get there. In the meantime, a print option is valid, INHO
20:01:50 dave-on-air: well
20:01:59 dave-on-air: technical difficulties are always entertaining
20:02:00 Mercedes: Some users will be able to make use of the latest technology and multimedia aspects of the wikibook, others will have limited access because of their current situation, which may eventually change as they become more technological.
20:02:07 dave-on-air: ah.
20:02:10 dave-on-air: the debate has started
20:02:16 dave-on-air: hi will
20:02:18 dave-on-air: hi mercedes
20:02:32 dave-on-air: hi mr. sackville reject.
20:02:42 Harold_Jarche: hi dave
20:03:03 Mercedes: Hi dave and harold
20:03:11 bradhicks: it needs a big push from governments and bodies like the UN for the necessary changes to happen to cross the digital divide
20:03:12 Will_Richardson: Hey Dave
20:03:23 Harold_Jarche: so Will, I hear you took the blue pill, or was it the red one ;-)
20:03:24 Mercedes: very good sound
20:04:07 Will_Richardson: green, yellow, orange and chartreuse
20:04:16 Mercedes: I've been working on a presentation following harold's items on how to be succint. Hopefully i will be able to upload it to the blog tomorrow.
20:04:34 Harold_Jarche: welcome to free-agent nationhood, Will
20:04:42 Will_Richardson: many thanks...
20:05:00 Will_Richardson: it's been a heady couple of days but reality is just around the corner...
20:05:25 Will_Richardson: I'm hearing it...
20:05:41 dave-on-air: are you guys hearing jeff's scratchiness
20:05:47 Harold_Jarche: i'm hearing it, but not major problem
20:05:55 Will_Richardson: The scratchiness
20:05:58 surawang: I hear it!
20:06:04 Will_Richardson: But it's not awful...
20:06:07 Mercedes: Not really
20:06:19 Will_Richardson: It's actually getting better.
20:06:21 Harold_Jarche: scratchitutedness, man
20:06:38 surawang: Just sounds like my cell phone!
20:06:46 Will_Richardson: A bunch of what????
20:06:49 Will_Richardson: :0)
20:08:03 Will_Richardson: Jeff is going to join the teleconference
20:08:19 Mercedes: :/
20:08:25 jmullaney: Hmmmm
20:08:28 Will_Richardson: YUK
20:08:30 jmullaney: major scratch
20:08:35 Harold_Jarche: face2face meetings have just as many problems (like a lost projectors, etc)
20:08:39 Will_Richardson: That is really bad...
20:08:47 Mercedes: :p
20:08:57 Mercedes: now is good
20:09:04 bradhicks: that's better
20:09:10 Doug_Symington: sounds better
20:09:16 jmullaney: much
20:09:29 Harold_Jarche: burn, Dave
20:09:52 surawang: Hmmm! Am I the only one who hears nothing?
20:09:55 Will_Richardson: Jeff...can hardly hear you...
20:10:02 Harold_Jarche: getting scratchy
20:10:06 jmullaney: I am getting tremendous feedback
20:10:09 Will_Richardson: And now Dave, you sound really cruddy...
20:10:11 jmullaney: it is almost inaudible
20:10:31 Doug_Symington: agree re audio "difficulties"
20:10:37 Will_Richardson: Hi Doug!
20:10:43 Doug_Symington: hey Will
20:10:54 Doug_Symington: good to see you--hi to all others too ;)
20:10:57 bradhicks: better again
20:11:01 Harold_Jarche: sound better now
20:11:06 dave-on-air: audio still bad?
20:11:12 Doug_Symington: just got better
20:11:12 Will_Richardson: better
20:11:12 jmullaney: much better
20:11:25 Will_Richardson: But it was really bad at the start...
20:11:35 Doug_Symington: when Jeff talks from the conf it seems to throw an "echo"
20:11:52 Doug_Symington: it just got better after 30 sec of really scratchy stuff
20:12:12 jmullaney: Who were the first donors?
20:12:18 dave-on-air: so we're ok?
20:12:21 jmullaney: yes
20:12:22 Doug_Symington: ok now
20:12:49 jmullaney: were the first donors doing it as venture capital, i.e. to make money?
20:12:55 jmullaney: or for charitable issues
20:13:23 Harold_Jarche: good question John
20:14:01 Will_Richardson: Ask more about the community part...
20:14:22 dave-on-air: just a sec
20:15:14 suriawang: So what does the collaboration look like?
20:16:50 Will_Richardson: Are they paid?
20:17:07 jmullaney: You took my question
20:17:13 jmullaney: :-)
20:17:21 Mercedes: How interesting!
20:17:35 suriawang: Sounds like a selective Wikipedia -- which is what educators are asking for.
20:17:42 Harold_Jarche: what about control over lobby and special interest groups?
20:17:48 Mercedes: Precisely
20:18:02 Will_Richardson: Whew...I need a job ;0)
20:18:02 Doug_Symington: agree re sounds selective--folksonomy by expert
20:18:15 Harold_Jarche: e.g. the environmental movement has some deep divisions
20:18:20 dave-on-air: LOL will
20:18:21 jmullaney: Will it be in English only or other languages?
20:18:23 suriawang: OK, describe this thing in one sentence -- my favorite question...
20:18:33 Doug_Symington: will--lol
20:18:43 Mercedes: I imagine each field will have leeway to determine who is an expert in the field.
20:19:33 Harold_Jarche: if it's not a democracy, then it's some kind of select club, n'est-ce pas?
20:19:37 Doug_Symington: be interested to hear how stewards "typically" develop
20:19:54 Mercedes: Good question, i imagine w
20:20:21 jmullaney: translated?
20:20:24 Mercedes: or not
20:20:34 suriawang: In what ways can students use and remix content from Digital Universe?
20:20:40 Doug_Symington: that
20:20:48 Will_Richardson: So do we want the openness of Wikipedia with the "accuracy" of Britannica
20:20:50 Doug_Symington: 's a great question
20:20:51 Harold_Jarche: creative commons license?
20:20:54 Will_Richardson: ??
20:21:05 Will_Richardson: Good question Dave...
20:21:32 Doug_Symington: Hi Stan
20:21:39 Mercedes: us based or worldwide?
20:21:54 suriawang: It's what the kids want to do with information. Unless it plays with them, it's not theirs.
20:22:22 Harold_Jarche: kids want be co-creators of knowldge
20:22:31 suriawang: Yes Yes
20:22:45 suriawang: Not just consumers...
20:22:46 Mercedes: perhaps that could be considered in the collaborative part of this project
20:22:57 jmullaney: explain mercedes
20:23:22 Mercedes: he mentioned a community part of the project, he has not explained it yet
20:23:37 Will_Richardson: Or improved!!!
20:23:43 jmullaney: k I think this is key and would like to understand it
20:23:58 suriawang: Kids have been doing that for years.
20:24:17 suriawang: I use to do it with the old britanical the turn of the century -- 1920s ;-)
20:24:58 suriawang: :-)
20:25:01 Doug_Symington: now that's cool re cc
20:25:11 Harold_Jarche: what are barriers to entry for "coalitions"?
20:25:41 Will_Richardson: What does that mean?
20:25:50 Mercedes: so they would also be editors?
20:26:03 Doug_Symington: rip, mash, learn -- Will didn't you coin that?
20:26:31 suriawang: What does that look like -- learners/readers getting i nvolved?
20:26:48 jmullaney: what about wiki lesson plans for courses
20:26:55 Will_Richardson: No...I think it was Alan Levine
20:27:03 Doug_Symington: thx
20:27:23 Harold_Jarche: http://ripmixlearn.blogspot.com/
20:27:58 Doug_Symington: thx Harold
20:28:09 Mercedes: makes a lot of sense
20:28:24 Will_Richardson: nice model
20:28:47 Mercedes: a freer layer for collaboration?
20:28:53 jmullaney: if this is applied to classroom teaching, what is the "role" of the teacher?
20:29:13 suriawang: Got to go pack. Somebody take notes for me ;-)
20:29:35 Harold_Jarche: transcript will be posted later
20:29:43 Doug_Symington: no question--really need the "live" or "public" area to allow for iterative improvement
20:30:05 Doug_Symington: perfect re audio
20:30:15 Mercedes: a teacher may get a bit confused with so many options, but still i agree with them. they should be very clearly stated.
20:30:18 dave-on-air: i'm so happy he's back
20:30:30 dave-on-air: kinda like walking my legs tied together
20:30:51 Doug_Symington: i do know what you mean ;)
20:31:27 Harold_Jarche: "radical collaboration" - I like that
20:32:09 Doug_Symington: Harold you beat me, that is a fantastic notion
20:33:39 dave-on-air: wow.
20:33:47 jmullaney: Tell us more about the textbook component of the business model
20:33:50 Mercedes: wow here too
20:33:50 dave-on-air: hi joyce
20:34:01 dave-on-air: hold your horses
20:34:03 joycevalenza: hey dave and others
20:34:04 dave-on-air: we're getting there
20:34:11 jmullaney: lol
20:34:14 jmullaney: sorry I am too excited
20:34:15 Harold_Jarche: Doug - you may also like this description ..
20:34:17 Doug_Symington: hi Joyce
20:34:22 Harold_Jarche: http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/002232.html
20:34:28 Doug_Symington: thx again
20:34:34 Doug_Symington: hey Jeff
20:34:40 JeffLebow: Good to be back
20:34:48 JeffLebow: Please pray for my cpu
20:34:53 dave-on-air: i have been
20:35:59 jmullaney: Has Larry seen the model used by nanopedia by Dave Smith at CASE?
20:36:16 jmullaney: sounds like a simlar business model
20:36:31 Will_Richardson: Did he say broadband???
20:36:38 dave-on-air: what's that?
20:37:15 Will_Richardson: I think I missed something, but is he talking about reselling broadband service?
20:37:29 dave-on-air: mmm...
20:38:25 Harold_Jarche: wow
20:38:42 Will_Richardson: http://www.manyone.net/
20:39:41 Doug_Symington: this one http://www.digitaluniverse.net/
20:39:55 Will_Richardson: Woop???
20:40:02 Mercedes: excellent!
20:40:20 Will_Richardson: YES!
20:40:25 Mercedes: free
20:40:27 Will_Richardson: Access
20:40:30 Will_Richardson: Access
20:40:33 joycevalenza: interesting
20:40:37 dave-on-air: dude... i read your blog
20:40:41 joycevalenza: engaging
20:40:44 Harold_Jarche: textbook, as in buggy whip? (obsolete model)
20:40:48 Will_Richardson: Will manyone also help get kids connected, I wonder?
20:41:35 ignatj: I would also envision lesson plans, tests, etc. in addition to text
20:41:42 Mercedes: textbook, multimedia, collaboration,
20:41:50 joycevalenza: collected educators' wisdom is kinda nice?
20:41:53 Harold_Jarche: I don't want textbooks (speaking for myself)
20:42:13 joycevalenza: me neither, harold
20:42:23 Harold_Jarche: I want wikis for co-creation of knowledge
20:42:28 joycevalenza: yup
20:42:34 Will_Richardson: Really what we're talking about is a digital universe type thing within the classroom.
20:42:52 Mercedes: and teacher training
20:43:05 joycevalenza: yes, mercedes. that too!
20:43:13 Doug_Symington: Will--I just noticed that du.net is "empowered" by manyone
20:43:35 ignatj: Also I expect that teachers all over the country woul contribute what they believe is their best material and the web becomes not so much the author or editor as an integrator
20:43:58 Will_Richardson: It could be...
20:44:01 Harold_Jarche: might be better than a texbook
20:44:02 joycevalenza: yes, and the concept of regional and learner relevance
20:44:06 ignatj: The point of all this is to not have a monolithic, single source, text
20:44:24 Mercedes: not really, the core text is not freely editable, in my opinion
20:44:27 jmullaney: Henry spoke last week about point releases
20:44:54 Harold_Jarche: mercedes, I think that is a core issue for further discussion
20:44:59 jmullaney: let's being it back to th
20:46:13 Mercedes: funny, we always get back to the same point.
20:46:18 dave-on-air: ys.
20:46:21 dave-on-air: it seems that way
20:46:37 Harold_Jarche: yes, it's a foundational issue
20:47:54 Harold_Jarche: yes, it's something else
20:48:23 ignatj: John, meet me in room 2
20:48:36 dave-on-air: hi jim
20:48:54 [Room2] jmullaney: you rang?
20:48:56 [Room2] ignatj: who is Will Richardson?
20:48:57 Mercedes: This is what I do in these circumstances, I imagine myself going to school authorities anywhere in Latin America and imagine what they would say to a freely editable book they could use for their classroom and the reaction I foresee is not very favourable.
20:49:18 [Room2] jmullaney: do a google search, he is publishing a book on use of wikis in classrooms
20:49:28 [Room2] ignatj: Thanks, bye
20:51:02 jmullaney: don't wikis move backwards as well as forward?
20:51:11 Mercedes: And an area for blogs or podcasts where students can post their work, reflections, projects, etc, for example.
20:51:13 dave-on-air: yes
20:51:49 jmullaney: I agree Mercedes
20:52:32 Doug_Symington: I've always thought that wikis weren't "media friendly" enough...
20:52:51 Doug_Symington: if I'm going to have to link to files in a CMS anyway
20:54:15 jmullaney: no you do not, Dave (this is barbara)
20:54:24 Mercedes: I like the term "transition" which incorporates some traditional elements.
20:54:48 Jim_Gould: Mercedes insight would apply to most U.S. public schools as well. The typical procedure for textbook adoption is to have the faculty and administration review textbooks and narrow it down to three top contenders. The next step is for a parent committee to review the textbooks. For those that pass this "test", the district is then able to make an adoption. It would be a problem if the textbook is changed.
20:54:57 jmullaney: if the textbooks are old, outdates, and expensive, there is no need to perpeyuate their use if they are truly NOT useful
20:55:12 Harold_Jarche: 451 degres F ;-)
20:55:30 dave-on-air: burn burn burn
20:55:49 Jim_Gould: Old, outdated, expensive textbooks are not useful. Absolutely.
20:56:01 Mercedes: I agree.
20:56:04 jmullaney: we need to find the best lessons that exist in the drawers of teachers, ask them to make them them public, and let others build on that knowledge
20:56:33 jmullaney: it is not only about what we teach to students, it is sharing knwoledge on how we teach too
20:56:35 Harold_Jarche: right
20:56:37 Jim_Gould: John, that's the essence. Excellent.
20:57:16 Mercedes: well put
20:57:23 jmullaney: The goal is NOT to have wikis accepted into schools, the goal is to have resources available for teaching and learning
20:57:28 Jim_Gould: Lesson study--sharing and refining teaching strategies--is an extremely powerful tool in terms of enhancing student learning.
20:57:35 jmullaney: wikis canNOT be the endpoint
20:57:47 jmullaney: they are collaboration tools
20:58:10 Harold_Jarche: enhance teaching & learning, not try to accepted by every school district
20:58:32 jmullaney: B I N G O
20:58:33 joycevalenza: the idea of universal acceptance would kill the spirit
20:58:40 dave-on-air: i seem to be getting into trouble here...
20:58:41 joycevalenza: and the quality
20:58:47 Jim_Gould: Wikis exemplify 21st century collaboration. Horizontal, not vertical. Bottom up, not top down.
20:58:54 Harold_Jarche: dave, you're always in trouble
20:58:55 dave-on-air: i'm not sure i meant what is being disagreed with
20:59:09 jmullaney: dave: look at some of the things in the chatroom...
20:59:21 dave-on-air: john i've read everything in the chat room
21:02:28 Jim_Gould: ...just be sure to take safeguards for students from predators--i.e. no personally identifable information.
21:03:02 Mercedes: that's right,
21:03:16 Mercedes: lol
21:03:52 Jim_Gould: Students SHOULD be creating products. Excellent point from Chat.
21:04:35 Mercedes: Noooo
21:05:20 JeffLebow: call 1-402-756-9000 access code: 537267#
21:05:22 dave-on-air: stop yelling at me!
21:05:28 dave-on-air: i'm workin on it!
21:05:29 dave-on-air: :)
21:05:42 jmullaney: Jim We have yet to hear your voice!!!!!!
21:06:31 Jim_Gould: I' afraid I can't this evening...I have to sign off soon. I hope to be able to join in next week.
21:06:40 Harold_Jarche: focus, focus, focus
21:07:14 dave-on-air: i got some more wine
21:07:16 joycevalenza: I still think this book can have three of four strands with a core of national standards
21:07:17 dave-on-air: i feel better now
21:07:26 jmullaney: joyce, please join in
21:07:31 dave-on-air: my feeling too
21:07:48 joycevalenza: too much nyquil
21:08:29 dave-on-air: i do not drink nyquil... it really is wine
21:08:30 JeffLebow: If anyone's out there on the teleconference, please feel free to chime in
21:08:40 JeffLebow: press '6' to unmute yourselves
21:09:58 jmullaney: That is the group we are interested in reachin
21:10:02 jmullaney: reaching.
21:10:13 jmullaney: as well as kids in developing countries
21:10:26 joycevalenza: I am not sure that is the only group we are looking at. It's a big elephant
21:10:34 Mercedes: a print version regularly updated is an option, till they get digitized
21:11:17 Mercedes: where is that?
21:11:46 jmullaney: ERin says no to the printed version Mercedes
21:12:06 joycevalenza: but I am not sure it is a book model we're looking for
21:12:11 jmullaney: that is what we are trying to fix, the lag between creation and the time students have it in their hands
21:12:21 jmullaney: (Typing for Erin)
21:13:10 joycevalenza: must run! sorry
21:13:31 jmullaney: Erin says it is not that easy Dave
21:13:50 jmullaney: it is a question of having a linux guru at the school in the payroll to updated it
21:13:59 jmullaney: kids break computers
21:14:10 Harold_Jarche: I prefer many books in digital format
21:14:22 Mercedes: i agree, it is not that easy, if a school has a computer lab, that is a lucky school in many countries.
21:14:34 dave-on-air: i didn't know that there was a subroom 5
21:14:49 dave-on-air: not lab
21:15:17 Harold_Jarche: evry student in my son's grad 6 class has internet access at home
21:15:32 jmullaney: kids in inner city Cleveland do not
21:15:43 jmullaney: or on the SE quadrant of Oberlin Ohio
21:16:03 Harold_Jarche: i would assume in one year that more, not fewer, students will have access
21:16:18 Mercedes: My vision is that of a public school and in many of them internet access is very expensive and a print version (even in transition) is certainly welcome.
21:17:00 Will_Richardson: Mercedes, where are you?
21:17:04 Mercedes: mexico
21:17:08 Will_Richardson: Ah...
21:19:01 Mercedes: flash, director, java
21:19:57 dave-on-air: any questions?
21:20:04 dave-on-air: we're going to be winding down soon...
21:20:14 dave-on-air: -ish
21:20:26 Will_Richardson: I have about 10 minutes...
21:20:52 dave-on-air: mmm
21:21:06 jmullaney: yes it is possible and it currently happening
21:21:30 Mercedes: webheads
21:21:38 dave-on-air: true
21:21:39 Harold_Jarche: this small group can't even agree on a single vision ...
21:22:19 jmullaney: large and fluid ae not always mutually compatible, but there are small fluid groups that are doing this quietly all around..we want to bring them all together, no?
21:22:36 Mercedes: the editor will provide the overall vision?
21:23:06 JeffLebow: Last call for the teleconference... anyone out there want to chime in?
21:23:10 jmullaney: arev there other voices from the chatroom that want to be heard on the feed?
21:23:31 Harold_Jarche: the world's information doubles every three weeks - try to keep up
21:23:42 dave-on-air: that's what i have you for harold
21:24:03 Doug_Symington: I'll be on tomorrow, so I'm ok. Been a great discussion again this evening, well done to all
21:24:04 Harold_Jarche: that's how bloggers help ;-)
21:24:21 Harold_Jarche: bye doug
21:24:24 jmullaney: we are not responsible fopr all information..we can only be responsible for what we teach
21:24:28 jmullaney: Buthaina!
21:24:28 Doug_Symington: hi Buthaina
21:24:39 Mercedes: hi buth
21:24:42 buthaina: Hi Doug and all.
21:24:44 Doug_Symington: cya Howard, stop by tomorrow night if you're around...
21:24:46 Harold_Jarche: every field keeps changing
21:24:56 Mercedes: transition
21:25:03 Mercedes: flexibility
21:25:05 Doug_Symington: sorry Harold
21:25:12 Doug_Symington: there's my dyslexia again
21:25:15 Harold_Jarche: would we have H5N1 in any texbook? My son just did a ar eport on avian flu
21:25:29 Mercedes: what is h5n1?
21:25:35 Doug_Symington: the bird flu virus
21:26:07 jmullaney: There are several peer review medical journals that have current research
21:26:21 jmullaney: easiily accessible for kids on the web
21:26:45 Harold_Jarche: texbooks could focus on process not content - that would be a good change
21:27:05 buthaina: I am so sorry that I'm late; it's due to the weather condition here in Ashrafiya, Beirut, Lebanon where I'm staying. thanks for your understanding.
21:27:16 Harold_Jarche: white, middle-age male narrative ;-)
21:27:31 Mercedes: ha ha
21:27:46 jmullaney: I disagree Harold. Come on.......
21:28:15 Mercedes: i agree
21:28:32 jmullaney: Larry, you are right on!!
21:28:35 Harold_Jarche: yes, there are many good narratives & texts, but each book costs $$
21:28:47 JeffLebow: Last call for the teleconference... anyone out there want to chime in?
21:29:08 JeffLebow: Oops, that was a strange chat repeat
21:29:27 jmullaney: H5N1 killed the feed
21:29:33 Doug_Symington: lol
21:29:37 Mercedes: :D
21:29:39 Harold_Jarche: or R2D2
21:29:57 JeffLebow: What I typed was... if my cpu wasn't so taxed, I wanted to ask Larry about the leadership of DigitalUniverse...noticed all board members and stewards are men... any plans to get more women involved?
21:30:19 jmullaney: Larry great stuff
21:30:25 lsanger: Thanks
21:30:27 jmullaney: I really want to talk with you this week
21:30:28 Doug_Symington: yes, fantastic
21:30:48 lsanger: Hard to listen and type at the same time
21:30:52 Mercedes: i certainly thank you, it was a fantastic view, and so practical.
21:30:58 jmullaney: We need to think of a pilot project
21:31:13 Harold_Jarche: thank you for your time & insight Larry
21:31:15 Mercedes: could we have you again?
21:31:25 Mercedes: I mean for another conference?
21:31:29 jmullaney: Bravo Mercedes
21:31:45 jmullaney: not enough voices were heard tonight and people have questions for you Larry
21:31:52 buthaina: Ok, hearing you now;
21:31:59 Will_Richardson: I have to run guys...thanks for the opportunity.
21:32:05 Harold_Jarche: thx will
21:32:07 JeffLebow: I miss you too Dave
21:32:24 Doug_Symington: thx Will--plan on joining me one Thurs night
21:33:09 Will_Richardson: Sure Doug....
21:33:15 Mercedes: such a great meeting
21:34:15 dave-on-air: coming in?
21:34:18 dave-on-air: anyone
21:34:20 Harold_Jarche: bloggers rule :-)
21:34:35 buthaina: :)
21:35:01 Mercedes: bye
21:35:22 buthaina: Will Richardson is here?
21:35:34 Harold_Jarche: will just left
21:35:57 buthaina: Just wanted to thank him from Beirut and Kuwait later
21:36:16 Harold_Jarche: i'm sure he'll appreciate it
21:36:38 buthaina: Oh, my god just noticed all the Beautiful People are here...!!
21:36:45 Harold_Jarche: and me too
21:37:27 buthaina: But of course....
21:37:38 Harold_Jarche: :D
21:38:44 buthaina: Please excuse me, IC has been slow and owkward from here in Ashrafiya, where I am staying in a hotel.
21:39:05 buthaina: :D
21:39:06 dave-on-air: buthaina... so nice to see you
21:39:23 buthaina: Thanks, dave.
21:41:01 dave-on-air: ah...
21:41:06 dave-on-air: no thanks necessary
21:41:22 Mercedes: I will post my proposal for an EFL course tomorrow in my blog.
21:41:36 dave-on-air: yay
21:41:41 dave-on-air: post your blog here please...
21:41:47 dave-on-air: for the newbies
21:41:54 Mercedes: right, at worldbridges
21:42:54 dave-on-air: ah.
21:42:59 dave-on-air: on educationbridges
21:43:09 Mercedes: sorry educationbridges
21:43:15 dave-on-air: no prob.
21:43:28 dave-on-air: just wanted to make sure it wasn't somewhere else where i couldn't read it
21:43:51 Mercedes: :)
21:47:49 Mercedes: sponsoring a textbook? That makes sense!
21:47:55 Harold_Jarche: sponsor different varieties of textbooks?
21:48:08 Mercedes: focus and pilot one
21:48:20 Mercedes: absolutely
21:48:27 Mercedes: pilot with institutions
21:48:44 Mercedes: great interest in there, great potential